Bond is Vanessa-Mae time 4??? How false towards Noodles

Xanthippe · Post by **Xanthippe** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:41 am

Vanessa-Mae was quite successful in the USA with the Violin Player and the Classical Album 1. She received much attention of media there and also appeared as guesat in several television shows. She has been there for concerts too.

After the release of Storm and China Girl she more or less neglected the market there.

I could never see any particular reason for that; I don't understand it.

Gatis · Post by **Gatis** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:06 pm

Hmm..well I listened Bond new cd..must say, that Choreography is way better than that - Bond's pop album

cilindion · Post by **cilindion** » Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:23 pm

Sorry I'm don't saw all of the topic.

NO,No,no Bond can't like Mae Bond for lowso Mae for hiso sorry to post that but it's a reality .Bond so soft and easy music to listen.And impotant Bond music for feel happyfun .But Mae is the best deep music with astorng sound and more thing that i can't tryp(my eng bad)

But I feel Bond easy to take them music but Mae is difference her music so deep that the reason for the quetion why the Classified is the begin uninteresting for me .First single as alike as fuego and victory .It is a very bad. I like it because It for dance not it good.

Vanessa Mae new single for every new album Bast and Bast!!!

Jafo C ! Null · Post by **Jafo C ! Null** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 1:59 am

Rijko:

How many members from United States (Born there and have their culture) are here in the forum??

I think just one... most of are from Europe and well a few from Latin America, Asia and Oceania..

First, Europeans have Musical Culture.... Second, Latin Americans are opened for every musical style... third, US only listen to commercial music, (bad bad punk, plastic pop and hip hop, is a shame), and overall few of the people from there really enjoy masterpieces they do not have the capability TO DIG more to discover what is good and what is NOT!

Regards...

Xanthippe · Post by **Xanthippe** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 5:41 am

If you look at the member list and select according to location (descinding order) tghe I can count 12 members located in the USA. However, most of the members don't disclose thier location when they register.

aukoli · Post by **aukoli** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 8:51 pm

Jafo C ! Null wrote:Rijko:

How many members from United States (Born there and have their culture) are here in the forum??

I think just one... most of are from Europe and well a few from Latin America, Asia and Oceania..

First, Europeans have Musical Culture.... Second, Latin Americans are opened for every musical style... third, US only listen to commercial music, (bad bad punk, plastic pop and hip hop, is a shame), and overall few of the people from there really enjoy masterpieces they do not have the capability TO DIG more to discover what is good and what is NOT!

Regards...

I'm sorry, but that's one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Absolutely ridiculous!!

cilindion · Post by **cilindion** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:31 am

Sorry!!!

Best not bast

losthk · Post by **losthk** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:21 pm

To aukoli:

I am currently studying U.S. history right now. One of the few things i notice is.. American likes things to be big, fast, and loud. I being an American should not be dissing my own country, but it is the truth. When you look at America, the instrumental group that represents America is Band. While other countries are represented by string quartet or string orchestra. If you really pay attention to American band music, it's always ban, boom, ban, boom. Always a constantly rivary, and it get louder and louder faster and faster.

I think it's totally unfair to compare Bond to Vanessa Mae. Indeed, variety of music can be good. However, if you are compare 4 to 1, is that even fair.

Also, we hardcore fans of Vanessa Mae would actually "blown" things out of proportion because we love our VM. Vice Versa, you have enough love for Bond to bash Vanessa Mae on her fan forum, get it?

Solo violin music can not be compare to a whole group, because they are two different genre.

One more thing, if you listen carefully.... You can hear something different from Vanessa Mae's music than Bond's remix of orchestral piece. Vanessa Mae's musics have something unique in each individual piece. Mainly because she has a unique interpretation of music, where you can not find much in Bond's music.

Xanthippe · Post by **Xanthippe** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:32 pm

You said it all very well, losthk. I agree with you.

I started this discussion topic initially not to trigger a discusion about our Vanessa-Mae versus Bond, but more to show the stupidity of this journalist to compare a solo violinist to a string quartet band simply stating the band being this soloist times four.

I really don't understand how you can write something like that as a professional writer.

aukoli · Post by **aukoli** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:52 pm

losthk wrote:To aukoli:

I am currently studying U.S. history right now. One of the few things i notice is.. American likes things to be big, fast, and loud. I being an American should not be dissing my own country, but it is the truth. When you look at America, the instrumental group that represents America is Band. While other countries are represented by string quartet or string orchestra. If you really pay attention to American band music, it's always ban, boom, ban, boom. Always a constantly rivary, and it get louder and louder faster and faster.

Yes, that is very true. But the poster put all Americans in one group and then spoke as if Americans are just stupid rebellious teenagers, and that's just not true.

aventine · Post by **aventine** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:24 pm

Yes, that is very true. But the poster put all Americans in one group and then spoke as if Americans are just stupid rebellious teenagers, and that's just not true.

Of course that's not true. But I guess it's a lot harder for an American teenager to escape commercial crap than say, in New Zealand. Simply because we're not bombarded as much with it. Depends a lot on your bringing up too.

Post by **changing worlds** » Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:53 pm

losthk wrote:the instrumental group that represents America is Band.

Boy, the way Glenn Miller played...

Dava_Devil · Post by **Dava_Devil** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:17 pm

Well shock shock horror horror Im a poster here who actually likes BOTH! I know its hard not to compare them, especially since theyve both decided to produce Sabre Dance covers...They both are very diffrent. Bond have a clear defined formular which they stick to, which is slightly camp, clubbed up (especially more recently, there are exeptions on Shine and Born) classical cross over tunes. They rarely fail to live up to it, producing tracks which are slickly produced (sometimes over produced). There are only a couple of Bond which i dont enjoy usually due to over production, or just strqaight up sacralidge... They certainly are easier to digest then VM and attract a bigger market, even in the UK they still managed to make the top 30 with their third album which I was pretty impressed by.

Vanessa-Mae on the other hand rarely cross-es over, ok there are a couple of camped tracks which the record company loves to stick on there to sell the album, but generally her work is classical based and certainly more experimental then Bond. To be fair VM's work can certainly miss the target at times, a lot more then Bond, but when you set the bar higher this is more likely to happen. For example I personally am not that hot for *Subject to Change as an album, as I think although what Vanessa-Mae is trying to do is a good way to move forward but there are maybe only five tracks I like (Yantra, Destiny, Jamais, Laughing Budda, Love is only a game). I have some opinions on this album regarding Bond actually but will probably get slaughtered for saying so...

I am pleased to see that the music on VM's new album seems (in my opinion) more true to herself, its like the classical and fussion ellements of her music are finally blending as one, which has been happening for some time, but not quite managed to do so. I am really looking forward to next week.

Dava_Devil · Post by **Dava_Devil** » Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:17 pm

Rijko Ebens wrote:You said it all very well, losthk. I agree with you.

I started this discussion topic initially not to trigger a discusion about our Vanessa-Mae versus Bond, but more to show the stupidity of this journalist to compare a solo violinist to a string quartet band simply stating the band being this soloist times four.

I really don't understand how you can write something like that as a professional writer.

Ditto what you say, Vanessa-Mae and Bond are like apples and oranges we just stick them in the same fruit bowl.

cilindion · Post by **cilindion** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:43 pm

Dava_Devil I think like you .Subject to change my favourite music like you (and + Night Fight 1)

But The Choreography I love it all music (not for number 10 I don't like because it is not new music .)

Violin Player = most strong and most many music .I feel headache, don't understand and don't fun.

Subject To Change = Most soft Vanessa Mae Build in chorus where can I see her in this album ? (I know her from this album ,white bird)

Storm = Perfect album with Best music more than other album

The Choreography = A new day with perfect music all in 1 .Best lower than Storm a little bit bit and bit. But I feel funny and happy in Choreo more than Storm .

What I can see in all album ? they make newly don't copy from last album. (What's copy ? See Victory , Viva ,Fuego,and first
single of last album of bond.)

I don't play violin and I'm not a musician. What I can play? I can play bamboothaifruit. But I love Vanessa Mae 's music.

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