- Interesting information about Vanessa-Mae's mother Pamela Tan and Vasko Vassilev with links, including to their official website, is given.
- Listed are 3 new nice photos of Vanessa-Mae
- A new feature with quotes of Vanessa-Mae is started. From now, a quote of Vanessa-Mae, with mentioning of the source, will be given each update of my website.
These are the topics of todays update of my website!
To read more, see Vanessa-Mae: Saying Power On Strings
Vanessa-Mae: Saying Power On Strings site update
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Vanessa-Mae: Saying Power On Strings site update
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Nice update Rijko! The quotes are good, so now if Im looking for one I dont have to go on the Classical Album CD to find one!
She's just trying to hold onto the last scrap of fame that Vanessa gave her.
I REALLY hate it when Pamela takes all the credit for things Vanessa has done. Her composition of Happy Valley? It was written by Vanessa Mae and Andy Hill (With her on lyrics I suppose)! She wrote Reflection? I dont think so! All she did to those tracks were produce them!Rijko Ebens wrote:- Interesting information about Vanessa-Mae's mother Pamela Tan and Vasko Vassilev with links, including to their official website, is given.
She's just trying to hold onto the last scrap of fame that Vanessa gave her.
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That's an incredibly slanted point of view. Suffice it to say, without Pamela, there would have been no Vanessa-Mae. If anything, this is one of the rare times where I've seen her actually credited for some of the things she has accomplished during her tenure as Vanessa's manager.MSam wrote:Nice update Rijko! The quotes are good, so now if Im looking for one I dont have to go on the Classical Album CD to find one!
I REALLY hate it when Pamela takes all the credit for things Vanessa has done. Her composition of Happy Valley? It was written by Vanessa Mae and Andy Hill (With her on lyrics I suppose)! She wrote Reflection? I dont think so! All she did to those tracks were produce them!Rijko Ebens wrote:- Interesting information about Vanessa-Mae's mother Pamela Tan and Vasko Vassilev with links, including to their official website, is given.
She's just trying to hold onto the last scrap of fame that Vanessa gave her.
The article didn't say that Pamela herself wrote "Happy Valley" (not as far as I could see). It states:
"Recently “Happy Valley” written in 1997 for the Reunification of HK to China, was selected for inclusion in the official 2004 Athens Olympics Commemorative Album."
I saw nothing false about what was said in Pamela's biography, but rather it shows that she's more than just a classical pianist that occasionally accompanies Vanessa-Mae during concerts. She seems to be an incredibly driven woman, and has a rather impressive resume not unlike her daughter.
Truth be told, Pamela's moving on with her life, and for that, we should be happy for her. As regards to her split with Vanessa-Mae, there are two sides to every story, and we haven't really heard Pamela's side.
I know we all are Vanessa-Mae fans here, but none of us know her personally, off-the-stage, and it wouldn't be fair to assume that her mother was totally at fault just because we're fans of Vanessa-Mae.
This jenleex character was trying to say something similar, but unfortunately, he didn't have the maturity of putting it in a respectful manner. Some rich people, especially those who have been wealthy for a long while--, can be hard to please and can prove difficult to work with. Was this the case with Vanessa-Mae & the builders? I don't know. However, jenleex did no better by taking the builder's side, again, without knowing the full facts.
In fact, I'm still a little confused why that thread was locked, because it was on topic as far as I can tell.
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Your right, it was a slanted argument. But..
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006- ... 310857.htm
Her composition Happy Valley, written in 1997 for the reunification of Hong Kong to China, was select...
I was just remembing back to that - which probably shouldnt have been used in this case
Im still a little concerned she is trying to pull of another version of 'Toccata and Fugue' with Vasko in world classics.
I would love to hear what Pamala has to say about the spilt. Your entirley right, btw. I've only heard one side of the story (but I would like to hear what Pamala has to say!)
Your right it didnt say it in that artical. But another article that I read it gives her complete credit for Happy ValleyBenji wrote: The article didn't say that Pamela herself wrote "Happy Valley" (not as far as I could see). It states:
"Recently “Happy Valley” written in 1997 for the Reunification of HK to China, was selected for inclusion in the official 2004 Athens Olympics Commemorative Album."
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006- ... 310857.htm
Her composition Happy Valley, written in 1997 for the reunification of Hong Kong to China, was select...
I was just remembing back to that - which probably shouldnt have been used in this case
Truth be told, Pamela's moving on with her life, and for that, we should be happy for her. As regards to her split with Vanessa-Mae, there are two sides to every story, and we haven't really heard Pamela's side.
Im still a little concerned she is trying to pull of another version of 'Toccata and Fugue' with Vasko in world classics.
I would love to hear what Pamala has to say about the spilt. Your entirley right, btw. I've only heard one side of the story (but I would like to hear what Pamala has to say!)
Again, your right. Im just reading from what I've heardI know we all are Vanessa-Mae fans here, but none of us know her personally, off-the-stage, and it wouldn't be fair to assume that her mother was totally at fault just because we're fans of Vanessa-Mae.
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Pamela is an incredible driven and active lady and it is obvious from whom Vanessa-Mae inherited her multi-talents. From that, without Pamela there would not have been a Vanessa-Mae!
I always have the idea that Pamela aspired and wanted Vanessa-Mae's life, sucesses and career for herself. Read Vanessa-Mae's personal notes in the China Girl booklet where she explains that her grand father and grand mother were anxious and reserved about her wish to become a professional violinist, since in the social circles of the family in China it was simply not done to please and entertain other people: you were entertained and did not entertain others, that was done by the common people. In this environment, Pamela had no opportunity to excercise her musical talents in a professional way. But when she recognized the same talents for her daughter she decided to encourage and push Vanessa-Mae in that direction and we know the results!
Vanessa-Mae nor Pamela have said too much about their allegedly riftt, and they kept it within the privacy of the family. Actually, only Vanessa-Mae said a few things during interviews. Vanessa-Mae always said that she only wanted to become her own boss, make her own decisions and mistakes and separate mother-daughter relations from the professional artist-manager one, but that she is thankfull to her mother for all support and that she does not regret the sacrifices of hours training, discipline and devotion at all because it made her the person she is today.
This sounds reasonable to me for someone becoming an adult. But the fact remains that we do not know Pamela's story and her perception of all those years she spent with the emerging artist who also happened to be her daughter Vanessa-Mae.
Anyway, it is good to see that Pamela moved on and is still on the move in all kind of new and interesting projects. It is good to see that she now finds a way to use her multi-talents and skills. I hope for all possible success for Pamela's and Vasko's projects and it will be interesting to monitor the developments.
It is just sad to me that in Pamela's biography she only refers to the role she played in guiding her daughter in her career without mentioning Vanessa-Mae by name. She should be proud about Vanessa-Mae, mentioning her name as much as possible, imo.
I love Vanessa-Mae and care about her very much, and I think she is basically a nice person. I met her once briefly after the 2004 concert in the Royal Festival Hall and she was very nice and friendly, actually a bit shy when I handed her our presents for her birthday. I realise very well that this doesn't say too much about how she really is as a person, in her private life.
No one is perfect and we all have dark sides in our characters, and Vanessa-Mae is, of course, no exeption to that rule. One bad habit does'not define someone to be a bad person.
About the stuff jenleex was referring, we do not know all the facts and we do not know the stories from all perspectives. So, it is not fair to judge either side.
As far as I know, it is a rule in this forum to treat Vanessa-Mae with respect and speak about her in a decent manner. Criticism is and, of course, should always be possible, but repeatedly spread around negative rumours without naming facts, or without adding new information, is useless and contradicts a basic positive attitude that is normal in a fans forum.
That is why jenleex was asked by the admin to stop and comply to the rules, or leave this forum.
Finally, I really hopwe that Vanessa-Mae and Pamela will be able to put thier differences aside on day and reconcile with each other. I would love to see a collaboration between the two. Imagine a recording of duets between violin (Vanessa-Mae) and piano (Pamela), that would be interesting. And also, see both women together live in concert playing new music combined with special arrangements for violin and piano of Vanessa-Mae's oldies. That would be interesting and spectacular!
I always have the idea that Pamela aspired and wanted Vanessa-Mae's life, sucesses and career for herself. Read Vanessa-Mae's personal notes in the China Girl booklet where she explains that her grand father and grand mother were anxious and reserved about her wish to become a professional violinist, since in the social circles of the family in China it was simply not done to please and entertain other people: you were entertained and did not entertain others, that was done by the common people. In this environment, Pamela had no opportunity to excercise her musical talents in a professional way. But when she recognized the same talents for her daughter she decided to encourage and push Vanessa-Mae in that direction and we know the results!
Vanessa-Mae nor Pamela have said too much about their allegedly riftt, and they kept it within the privacy of the family. Actually, only Vanessa-Mae said a few things during interviews. Vanessa-Mae always said that she only wanted to become her own boss, make her own decisions and mistakes and separate mother-daughter relations from the professional artist-manager one, but that she is thankfull to her mother for all support and that she does not regret the sacrifices of hours training, discipline and devotion at all because it made her the person she is today.
This sounds reasonable to me for someone becoming an adult. But the fact remains that we do not know Pamela's story and her perception of all those years she spent with the emerging artist who also happened to be her daughter Vanessa-Mae.
Anyway, it is good to see that Pamela moved on and is still on the move in all kind of new and interesting projects. It is good to see that she now finds a way to use her multi-talents and skills. I hope for all possible success for Pamela's and Vasko's projects and it will be interesting to monitor the developments.
It is just sad to me that in Pamela's biography she only refers to the role she played in guiding her daughter in her career without mentioning Vanessa-Mae by name. She should be proud about Vanessa-Mae, mentioning her name as much as possible, imo.
I love Vanessa-Mae and care about her very much, and I think she is basically a nice person. I met her once briefly after the 2004 concert in the Royal Festival Hall and she was very nice and friendly, actually a bit shy when I handed her our presents for her birthday. I realise very well that this doesn't say too much about how she really is as a person, in her private life.
No one is perfect and we all have dark sides in our characters, and Vanessa-Mae is, of course, no exeption to that rule. One bad habit does'not define someone to be a bad person.
About the stuff jenleex was referring, we do not know all the facts and we do not know the stories from all perspectives. So, it is not fair to judge either side.
As far as I know, it is a rule in this forum to treat Vanessa-Mae with respect and speak about her in a decent manner. Criticism is and, of course, should always be possible, but repeatedly spread around negative rumours without naming facts, or without adding new information, is useless and contradicts a basic positive attitude that is normal in a fans forum.
That is why jenleex was asked by the admin to stop and comply to the rules, or leave this forum.
Finally, I really hopwe that Vanessa-Mae and Pamela will be able to put thier differences aside on day and reconcile with each other. I would love to see a collaboration between the two. Imagine a recording of duets between violin (Vanessa-Mae) and piano (Pamela), that would be interesting. And also, see both women together live in concert playing new music combined with special arrangements for violin and piano of Vanessa-Mae's oldies. That would be interesting and spectacular!
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I locked the thread because (in my opinion) Jenleex is only here to start verbal wars. I cannot recall Jenleex posting a positive comment about VM, or prove opinions that stated as facts.
Jenleex is not a fan. We've allowed non-fans to voice a single clean opinion in the past. Jenleex has overstayed his/her welcome.
Jenleex is not a fan. We've allowed non-fans to voice a single clean opinion in the past. Jenleex has overstayed his/her welcome.
What's rather strange is the way that he/she writes. A lot of his sentences were jarbled and made little sense, which makes me wonder if English perhaps was not his first language or simply cannot articulate himself in written form.joe_mate wrote:I locked the thread because (in my opinion) Jenleex is only here to start verbal wars. I cannot recall Jenleex posting a positive comment about VM, or prove opinions that stated as facts.
Jenleex is not a fan. We've allowed non-fans to voice a single clean opinion in the past. Jenleex has overstayed his/her welcome.
He made alot of references to different people that were supposedly involved with Vanessa-Mae. If his posts were just a little more coherent, I'd be interested in what he has to say.
However, I sincerely doubt this is the stalker, as he doesn't exactly fit the profile of an obsessed fan. This jenleex character believes that Vanessa-Mae is an unsavory person at best, so it's hard to believe that he would stalk her by continually visiting her concerts. Then follow her around, with her CDs in hand. It doesn't make sense to waste all that time (and money) on an artist you don't like.