Only a little question

Alberto B. · Post by **Alberto B.** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 6:20 pm

Ok i have a little question but i don't have any answer, here is: Why my cd of the album "Subject to Change"have 14 tracks and in the case only appears 12 tracks? anyone have the answer, i bought my cd in Mexico and is made it by Emi Mexico.

Arioch · Post by **Arioch** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 6:56 pm

Now my Uk copy of "S,t,C" has 12 tracks but there is 13.
The 13th track is a hidden track, which is connected to the end of track 12 "Jamais" and comes in aprox' 1.5 mins after track 12 has Finished! It a little gimmick that Robbie Williams started with his first album then his second, now it's become a trend. No lets say Hip?
As for track 14 ???

Glenn, Rijko, anyone,
It's over to you!

Xanthippe · Post by **Xanthippe** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:16 pm

I think we had such a remark before about the Mexican release with 14 tracks.

As I recall correctly, 'Art of War' (Power of C) was also included on the Mexiacan release. Is this correct Alberto?

I possess a EMI demo STC cd for internal use only that also has 'Art of War' on it. I have no idea why this track is also on the Mexican release. This is rather strange because Vanessa-Mae deliberately omitted this piece on the regular releases. Maybe someone at EMI Mexico made a stupid mistake.

machalita · Post by **machalita** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 9:02 pm

Im from mexico...
OJO, Mucho OJO
Yo tambien tuve problemas con el cd de aqui, el orden de las canciones no es el orden en el que viene el cd, asi que te sera dificil identificarlas... las 2 canciones extras que vienen son Tourmaline, que tambien viene en los otros stc pero como cancion bonus, y la otra es Art of War, que solo en nuestro pais fue sacado en stc, suerte la nuestra, no?

Xanthippe · Post by **Xanthippe** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 9:07 pm

Machalita,

In English, please!!!!

machalita · Post by **machalita** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 11:10 pm

The order of the tracks are not the same that is in the cover of the cd... the two extra songs are Tourmaline (In others countrys is a bonus track) and Art of War. We are lucky (Resumed)

Alberto B. · Post by **Alberto B.** » Mon Jan 13, 2003 11:44 pm

Bueno digamos que eso es bueno o malo?, a mi parecer es bueno, y esto hacer honor al nombre del album "Subject to Change", y al parecer es real, de hecho en un post en el foro del sitio oficial Glenn, ponia un link para comprar "StC", y esa version traia 3 videos si mal no recuerdo, quien sabe porque el desorden pero ya son cosas de Emi Mexico. In resume for the English speakers, with the other opinions in the topic i finalized that: the album "Subject to Change" honored its name, or you have any other explication?

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Tue Jan 14, 2003 3:44 am

Hola,
The Mexican release has 14 Tracks, as the CD was intended to be released. The extra track is "Art of War" which was removed from the shipping releases of everyone except Mexico (and maybe South America).

All of the other CD's have 13 tracks. But the last track, "Tourmaline", is not listed so the liner notes only list 12 tracks. This 13th track is being called a hidden track (a fairly new record industry gimmick). It begins after about 30 seconds of silence after track 12.

Regarding why "AoW" was left off is only a guess. Vanessa says, in jest, it was because people will get tired of Vanessa with so much on a CD. My guess is that EMI Mexico never got the word on what the final release was to go out as and went with what they were told earlier. The version the rest of the world has was finalized very late.

Alberto B. · Post by **Alberto B.** » Tue Jan 14, 2003 4:17 am

Roger Wilco, thanks for the explaniation (excuse my english) and the answer problaby end the topic, but if anyone have other explacation, we ears you, and if i see other mistakes in the the cd's or other similar question i post here.

Alberto B. Wing Commander in the 201st mexican virtual squadron (www.escuadron201.tk)

Xanthippe · Post by **Xanthippe** » Tue Jan 14, 2003 7:01 am

Art of War would have been the only track on the album that was based on a classical theme. all other songs were modern compositions written by Vanessa-Mae in coperation with Youth. Using classical themes was a concept that Vanessa-Mae wanted to leave behind her. She has said something on this somewhere. I think that this was the main reason to skip Art of War from the final album.

I have no idea why Art of War is on the Mexican release. Glenn's explanation sounds reasonable to me.

I have one question for Machalita and Alberto. Can you both read on the cd or in the booklet where it has been printed?

Alberto B. · Post by **Alberto B.** » Tue Jan 14, 2003 2:18 pm

Well, my cd and booklet says Made in Mexico, by Emi records in the year 2000 (the case) and in the year 2001 (the cd).

DAN1EL · Post by **DAN1EL** » Tue Jan 14, 2003 6:36 pm

Esto fue un error bueno por parte de EMI México, que suerte la nuestra, jeje.

This was a good mistake of EMI Mexico.

We are lucky

machalita · Post by **machalita** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 2:03 am

Eh? the booklet in my cd was printed in the UK, but the back cover was printed in mexico, both shows only 12 tracks.

Jafo C ! Null · Post by **Jafo C ! Null** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 3:48 am

Yo tambnien tuve ese problema!! kajajaj pero Rijko resolvio mi duda.

English: I had that problem too, but Rijko solve my doubt...

Xanthippe · Post by **Xanthippe** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 6:52 am

So what is the track listing in your booklets: 12, 13 or 14 tracks?