Only a little question

Alberto B. · Post by **Alberto B.** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 3:30 pm

Well, in my booklet only are listing 12 tracks.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 4:57 pm

I think the more important question is How many tracks are on the CD? Or more specifically; is "Art of War" on the Mexican STC CD?

It may be that EMI Mexico fixed the (possible error of the) first run and now the 12 track "world" version is all that's available. I say 12 meaning 13 with the addition of the "hidden" track "Tourmaline")

machalita · Post by **machalita** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 9:50 pm

The STC has 14 tracks, and are in disorder...the booklet and cover shows only 12 tracks.

machalita · Post by **machalita** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 9:52 pm

There´s only one version of the STC of Mexico.

Alberto B. · Post by **Alberto B.** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 1:48 am

That right, in Mexico we have only one version of StC with 14 tracks, and only 12 in the booklet and case.

machalita · Post by **machalita** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 1:57 am

Lot of fans from mexico

I saw VM in 1998 when she was here in the "Auditorio Nacional" the first and last chance to see VM in mexico

Xanthippe · Post by **Xanthippe** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:39 am

If there are only 12 song listed in the booklet, then it might be possible that 'Art of War' was not intended to be on the album??

Anyway, someone made a mistake here!

Vanessa-Mae visited Mexico in 1998. That must have been for the Storm on World Tour. I hope for your guys that she will be back soon.

Alberto B. · Post by **Alberto B.** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 5:42 pm

Yes, she only a had a concert in 1998, but isht will go to chilangolandia (Mexico D.F.) in summer i will go, because my family always go to the D.F., well in the last years.

Niccolò Paganini · Post by **Niccolò Paganini** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 1:45 am

I've got a question, it has nothing to do with the STC album. I was wondering how Vanessa-Mae got her chinese name Chen Mei?

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:44 am

I believe from her mother. That is, Asian parents give their children traditional Asian names even if living in the West, along will also a western name.

I'm not clear on it as Vanessa within her family was always "Vanessa". Pamela's (her mum) family name is Tan.
This issue was thrashed out in detail many years ago within an early forum.

But for a point of reference, Vanessa's first 3 Classical CD's that she released when she was 11-12 were also released in Taiwan with very different covers and listed her not as Vanessa but as Chen Mei. ***Asia-centric marketing maybe?

Xanthippe · Post by **Xanthippe** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 6:40 am

We discussed the name Chen Mei before indeed. Daisy told us some interesting facts about it. I can't remember any details anymore, unfortunately.

Joe, do you still have the files of the former forums? Or maybe Haidee, aventine.

jintan · Post by **jintan** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:49 am

Tan is the family name of Vanessa-mae's mother. In Hanyu Pinyin (Romanized Chinese), Tan is also known as 'Chen'. In Singapore, all Chinese born after the late 1960s will have both their Hanyu Pinyin name and 'traditional' name on their Birth Certificate. The rationale for doing this is to over time standandize all Chinese family name to reflect their actual written Chinese form. For example, family names like Tay, Cheng, and Tee share the same Chinese character in their written form; and hence in Hanyu Pinyin, they are all known as 'Zheng'. Similarly, Tan and Chan are also known as 'Chen'.
Tay, Cheng, Tee, Tan and Chan are all family names of overseas Chinese, depending on which province of China they were from. In mainland China, there are no such family names as Tan or Chan, as they are all known as 'Chen' and share the same written Chinese character (I hope I have not confused you further). With adoptation of Hanyu Pinyin (Romanized Chinese) throughout the world, hopefully their will be a standardization of Chinese family names few generations down the road.
'Mei' is a direct transliteration of 'mae'; and in written Chinese form, it means 'pretty or beautiful'. I would think Chen Mei very aptly describe Vanessa-mae! This direct transliteration is commonly used to convert Western names to written Chinese form, and can be rather cruel and outrageous at times!

Xanthippe · Post by **Xanthippe** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 9:25 am

Hi Jintan,

Thanks for your explanation. This information confirms the story Daisy tolds us, as far as I remember it.

Post by **changing worlds** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:21 am

I do have both EZBoard and F2S backed up. I currently do no have room to upload them.

This topic was discussed at EZBoard under the General catagory with a Chen Mei as topic headers.

I think that jintan's explanation was very complete.

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 1:36 pm

Yes, I'm remembering now

. Jintan's explanation jives with what Daisy (or others) had said in one of the old Forums.