VM-F Meeting #1 - Re: VANESSAMAE.ORG

aventine · Post by **aventine** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 1:21 am

Thanks machalita and El_Guille. I have the flash bit under my belt at the moment but I'll let you know if I require any extra assistance. Possibly when we come to creating some screensavers and multimedia stuff for the downloads section. Do you have any flash stuff I can take a look at?

El_Guille - the new site will be powered by php, but this forum is still in CGI. Well I know absolutely nothing about CGI (yet I managed to install this thing ???), so perhaps I'll need your help with a few things for the forum. I think street_rat was thinking about using the calender with the forum, but I'm not sure how that works yet. I haven't seen the revamped version of your site before, it looks great!

machalita · Post by **machalita** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 2:06 am

I was making some animations with vectorials of japanese cartoons.
I can make icons too... and another stuf.

El_Guille · Post by **El_Guille** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 11:26 pm

Hi Aventine, if your server support SSI (Server Side Include) you can add CGI in your html as the following:

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<!--#exec cgi="/cgi-bin/counter.cgi" -->

and therefore combine PHP with CGI. In this example, counter.cgi will return the total of visitors, or the number of visitors in the past 15 minutes, or anything you need!
(PD: i don't know anything about flash...)
(PD2: sorry if i'm off-topic...)[/color]

Niccolò Paganini · Post by **Niccolò Paganini** » Fri Mar 07, 2003 4:35 am

Whao, I haven't been here for a while, is it just me or did some of the colours change in this forum? ???

I'd like to see the finish product of this new site when it is done, it'll be interesting to see it. I don't know any scripting but I have a few wallpapers that I can contribute if you are interested.

aventine · Post by **aventine** » Fri Mar 07, 2003 5:46 am

Uh... no of course not... :p

Ok I accidentally replaced the CSS file with the new one for the brand new site, but that's ok, a bit of grey against brown for a few months won't hurt.

For our multimedia section we will include screensavers and wallpapers etc. and we definitely want a lot of fan contributions in this section! I'll announce it on the new site when it is launched so you can start sending them in then.

Street_Rat · Post by **Street_Rat** » Sat Mar 08, 2003 10:03 am

El_Guille, i didnt know cgi and php could be includeded together, but now i do, i may ask for your help in some aspects since a cgi file can sometimes run faster than a php page.
can the variables between the two be inter changed or are you un sure?

gaven · Post by **gaven** » Sat Mar 08, 2003 9:33 pm

I`m affraid I cant help much at all Im pretty novice at most things to do with computers :;):

daniel · Post by **daniel** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:57 pm

Hi aventine,

no, I cannot help anythings here.
I am in basic computer skill

I see some page load to strech screen resolution
think you are on updating

very nice, girl
I really like it

El_Guille · Post by **El_Guille** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 8:56 pm

Hi Street_Rat. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough. You don't "combine" PHP with CGI, I mean you can't write PHP and CGI in the same script neither use the same variables. Let me explain a little bit more: If you have a specific CGI-script that prints a value or something similar (like the number of visitors), you can insert this value in your HTML or PHP with the

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<!--#exec cgi="cgi-bin/script.cgi"-->

code

Here is an example:
This's a very primitive CGI script (hello.cgi)

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 #!/usr/bin/perl ## THIS LINE IS NECESSARY
  print "Content-type:text/html\n\n"; ## THIS LINE IS NECESSARY

  print "HELLO WORLD";

Next, you add the following code in your PHP / HTML

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<!--#exec cgi="cgi-bin/hello.cgi"-->

And it will print "HELLO WORLD" in your php or html, but ONLY if your sever support SSI (secure server include).. Don't worry, almost every paid server support this.

PD: I guess we're off-topic here. I think it will be much better if we continue this chat in another "room" in this forum.[/color]

Street_Rat · Post by **Street_Rat** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 9:50 am

ahh, ok, that clears it up.

what about with functions, if u include a cgi program inside a php script, and have the cgi return somthing, and assign that to a php variable, something like
$thisVar = 
is that possible? i dont think it is, but it would nice if something like this was.
can a cgi script return values?

ur right though, this isnt really the place.
but this will probabbly be the end of this.

El_Guille · Post by **El_Guille** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 6:08 pm

I never tried to use this $thisVar =  code, and i think it won't work.

Yes, CGI returns values, but i don't know if these values could be considered by PHP.... again, I guess not.

I think the only way to combine both languages is through a printed variable or printed text (like the "Hello World" example). Another way could be writing data into a text file with php and then reading this file with the CGI-script.

I don't know much about PHP, and our site runs 100% CGI. So i can't help you with the PHP-CGI integration... But if you need a specific script, i'm offering my CGI knowledge.

Street_Rat · Post by **Street_Rat** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 4:52 am

the write and read from files is a good idea. not one i would of thaught of.
im not too sure whats needed but im sure cgi will be required for stability and speed.

El_Guille · Post by **El_Guille** » Sat Apr 05, 2003 6:47 pm

Ok, Street_Rat. Any further information, you know how to get in contact with me

devils_trill · Post by **devils_trill** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:37 pm

Have not met Vanessa but would like to!!!

aventine · Post by **aventine** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 12:56 pm

I'm all confused by this tech talk. Anyway, the core of the site is pretty much done. We just need to set up the database stuff, so hold on just a little longer guys...